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HOST_DonnaR: Welcome to the National Invisible Chronic Illness
Awareness Week seminar. My name is Donna, and I'll be your host
for this hour. We will open in prayer; then our guest will present
the topic, after which there will be a question and answer period,
then I will close in prayer.
Let's pray.
Father, thank you for this week of special seminars to bring
awareness to chronic illnesses and those who live with them.
We ask you to bless our speaker today and speak to us through
him. Also, bless each one who is attending this session, and
let all that we say and do be pleasing in your sight. In Jesus'
name, Amen.
Now, I'd like to introduce you to our guest speaker.
Virgil M. Fry is the author of Warmed by Fires of Hope, &
Disrupted: Finding God in Illness & Loss (Leafwood Publishers).
He has been a hospital chaplain, adjunct professor, and presenter
on coping with serious illness and grief, and has written several
articles. His wife of 33 years has ongoing chronic illness issues
(diabetes & dialysis).
His topic today is "When it's not getting better: Spiritual
Resources." Virgil, we are happy to have you with us this
afternoon, and look forward to what you have to share with us.
Virgil_Fry: Thank you very much. It's an honor to be here as
part of this week's presentations. Greetings from Houston, TX.
My vocation is a hospital chaplain in a major cancer center
here, and I learn a great deal every day from patients and families
dealing with serious illness. But my other role is an ever greater
teacher to me. My wonderful wife, Caryl, is now on medical disability
after 25 years of teaching school, and she and I are learning
the ropes of maneuvering through medical systems and home life
that is a challenge.
She is a long time Type 1 diabetic (50 years), and now is on
dialysis which we do at home with a special machine. She also
is restricted on walking because of a degenerative bone disease,
so that has curtailed her mobility considerably.
We feel fortunate to have each other, to have the emotional
and spiritual support of lots of people, to have the ability
to keep on keeping on in spite of limitations. She's the expert
on managing chronic, debilitating illness. I'm the sort - expert
on being a supportive caregiver while maintaining my own personal
jobs and needs for sustenance.
I'd like to share with you an article that comes from my book
Disrupted: Finding God in Illness and Loss. It's a few statements
that reflect what I am learning and is quite important to any
of us who have to learn new ways of being, new ways of acting,
new ways of thinking when a serious illness breaks into our
lives. It's a reminder that life is an ongoing process, and
we need a very-present God to walk with us through all our mountains
& valleys. After I list these statements, I'll comment on
a few of them, and then will work with our moderator to listen
to some of your questions and comments. You may need to extend
me a little "grace" because chatroom technology is
not one of my strong suits!!!
From Disrupted: Finding God in Illness and Loss (Leafwood Publishers,
2007)
FACING SERIOUS ILLNESS:
* ADJUST TO NEW LIMITATIONS WITHOUT BECOMING PASSIVE.
* LOVE AND BE LOVED
* REMIND YOURSELF: NO ONE IS AN ISLAND.
* PRAY FERVENTLY. BE HONEST AND SPECIFIC.
* EDUCATE YOURSELF ABOUT TREATMENT.
* MAINTAIN HOPE, DIGNITY, AND PURPOSE.
* ALLOW FEELINGS TO BE EXPRESSED. REMEMBER: JESUS WEPT.
* FEED YOURSELF WITH THE LIVING BREAD.
* MEDITATE. LET YOUR MIND WORK WITH YOUR BODY.
* RECEIVE THE SUPPORT OFFERED BY CARING PEOPLE.
* REMEMBER WE CAN ONLY LIVE ONE DAY AT A TIME.
* CLAIM THE GIFT OF GOD'S PRESENCE.
Now, let me add a little to some of these (I am a minister...we're
known to always have a "few more things to say."!!)
First, to adjust to new limitations is a difficult task, and
we each do that in our own ways. Lots of people offer free advice
to sufferers on how the sufferer "ought" to be acting,
but only those who have been through your particular event can
relate to the turmoil you're going through. People of faith
can be extremely helpful in walking beside you in your process
of learning to live with limitations, and some can actually
make your burden more burdensome by adding on new guidelines.
So be open to the support of others, and be kind to yourself
in the adjustment. You'll have some days better than others,
and you'll be amazed at what lifestyles can still be endured
and even enjoyed in the midst of disruptions.
On prayer, I've continued to be amazed: God expects us to be
honest, forthright, and open with Him. I've come to the conclusion
that He isn't surprised at our intense feelings, even the so-called
negative ones, and that He welcomes the dialogue just like we'd
welcome such honesty from our own children.
And a word about treatment and seeking medical care: it's not
easy, even with the resources of our 21st century medical knowledge,
to find the group of experts that can help you best get through
your particular illness. Some medical personnel are more equipped
than others to look at you as a whole person, not a diseased
patient. Be bold in asking for help, and if you need other opinions,
it's usually a good idea to seek those. It is, after all, your
body, your life, that's on the line.
About feeding yourself with the Living Bread (a reference to
God's words) and meditation: without going overboard, these
resources can be a wonderful counterbalance to all kinds of
chaos in our lives, and help center us towards those things
that are most important: relationships, purpose & meaning,
and hope.
Now that you've been given this "sermonette", I'll
try to figure out how to start responding to some of your comments
and questions.
His: What is the best encouraging way for me to support my
husband to become a "supportive caregiver" with God's
help, while "maintaining his own personal jobs and needs?"
While he loves God and wants to develop his relationship with
Jesus, bible study seems to be one more thing on his endless
to do list. In actuality, daily prayer and bible study changed
my life. I already know reminding doesn't work, and inviting
him to join me hasn't really helped either (it feels like a
reminder). I'm already praying. I know encouraging is the way
to go, so are there encouraging words that you would like to
hear once in a while?
Virgil_Fry: I think it's a matter of balance (an ongoing battle
for everyone, isn't it). Bible study can be burdensome when
we're in the crisis management mode, but lifting a short verse
or phrase out for personal meditation is helpful. I think it
does encourage the spouse to hear occasionally a word of thanks
for carrying on, for helping accompany this journey.
cj_Encourage: Could you elaborate on what you mean when you
said "MEDITATE. LET YOUR MIND WORK WITH YOUR BODY?"
Virgil_Fry: For me, to meditate is to deliberately slow down,
to hush my rushing thoughts, to pray silently, to repeat to
myself God is bigger than me or my problems. For some, it's
much more involved than this, but for me, I have had to learn
to quiet my high anxieties within by some simple techniques
like this. And I think God is often heard in the "still
small voice" rather than the loud explosions.
HOST_DonnaR: What you said about some people making your burden
more burdensome by adding new guidelines is so true. It's frustrating
when people say they've read a book or heard of something that
is a "cure" for what you have, when there is no real
cure. How do you respond to those people?
Virgil_Fry: I, as well as my wife, have received lots of free
medical and spiritual advice that has been worth every penny
we paid for it! I have tried to learn to be graciously firm
and kind when something is being pushed onto me that I may or
may not want to know about. I remind myself that someone who
is trying to help me has good motivations, just poor judgment.
It's hard enough to gather medical information when you're trying
to get through the crisis without seeking out everyone else's
solutions too.
Kathleen_Wells: Sometimes I don't know if I should tell my
husband how I am really feeling. Once he said that my illness
wasn't too burdensome because I didn't talk about it or complain.
What helps our spouses most in dealing with our chronic illness?
Is it better to suffer in silence?
Virgil_Fry: It's hard to know in any marriage how much information
needs to be shared and what becomes burdensome. Again I believe
in balance. I do think everyone better benefits if there is
sharing, even the hard stuff like overwhelming feelings or despair
or weariness in the battle. Both parties in that marriage have
lots of plates spinning in the air at once, and it helps to
have some sense of what the spouse's perceptions and inner battles
really are. It's not healthy to try to protect someone from
your own needs and battles, and to carry your burdens in silence.
Angie: What are some good ways that you have found to express
feelings to those who are involved in your healthcare/your wife's
healthcare?
Virgil_Fry: I've tried to start using feeling words more, to
focus on what's a feeling and what may or may not be reality,
to negotiate with someone by saying "Can I tell you something
without risking an immediate fix-it answer? Conversations have
to be negotiated sometimes, and asking permission to "vent"
seems to help diffuse anxiety on the listener's part. Occasionally
we just need someone to say, "It's okay, whatever you share
with me. I'm here with you."
Shep: You work closely with people who are losing a loved one,
or perhaps dying themselves. What thing(s) do you think they
want most from others -- time with them, cards, phone calls,
etc.? What things do you hear them saying would be most helpful
or most meaningful during that time?
Virgil_Fry: People who are in the active dying process have
the same needs as anyone else - companionship, prayers, cards,
personalized gifts, etc. They do need to know of their importance
to you, and that they are your "teachers" along the
way (rather than you being just a giver or caretaker, you're
also a learner). Usually it's the little things that mean a
lot - short visits or calls, taking care of a household chore,
running an errand, getting a family member a break, etc.
Cindy: What are your thoughts about those that say "You
just are not confessing the Word enough and claiming the Scriptures
or you would be healed"?
Virgil_Fry: I think it's very easy to put tasks on others that
really aren't from God but from insecure folks. The book of
Job is very clear about this: companions that espouse windy
words from their healthy hills, who haven't experienced the
loss and turmoil, are not helpful to the one suffering. No one
has all of God's knowledge, we only know we need a God who will
meet us and carry the parts we can't carry, even in our desire
to believe fully.
p.j: Out of all you have shared, the hardest point you shared
for me is BEING KIND TO SELF - I just can't seem to get past
how I ended up like this? I know in my head it's not my fault
- people get sick, yet, even still somehow, some days, I think
maybe more mind over matter. Though on the other hand, I know
that it's not gonna change a thing. Reality kicks back in. Guess
all roads point back to God and staying in acceptance?
Virgil_Fry: Wow, you're expressing what most of us deep down
struggle with. I think what you're saying is one of the hardest
parts of living with an illness, without trying to add on the
extra burden of "what have I done wrong"? Bless you
in your journey of going from your head to your heart with this
message of grace...you'll get there!
p.j: When you say no one is an island- for some of us, we do
feel like islands. Not all of us have spouses that support us
the way you do your wife. I don't know how else to not be a
burden to family? They don't understand the pain, etc.
Virgil_Fry: Yes, many folks like you do travel without a spouse,
and also many people within marriages feel like an island because
of the lack of sharing. I think you're right. It's difficult
to find those even within our own families sometimes that understand,
or want to understand, what's really going on. But there are
people out there that do want to be a part, and I pray that
those folks will give you your stamina and let you "be
really you" at times.
Angie: So, is there never a time when some silence about how
you are really feeling is golden? Is silence, with invisible
illness, always causing more harm than good? (in reference to
your reply to Kathleen_Wells)
Virgil_Fry: Silence can be a healthy thing, but not silence
that is always stuffing away deeply felt responses. Sometimes
we choose to be silent because we're afraid of being rejected
if we venture out of our world, or we think we're only being
a burden to someone and that we should always present ourselves
as "together." Silence can be helpful, but not to
that extreme.
cheryl: I think I have just realized something myself. The
more you were talking about the positive, the angrier I was
getting and more depressed to the point my stomach hurt because
I just realized I have got to get through this anger and accept
it and stop trying to push it down. I have been telling everyone
I am ok and them turn around five minutes later and explode.
I have been praying positive prayers to God because I did not
want him to know how angry I was, like he could not see it when
I would cuss someone out -Light bulb moment.
Virgil_Fry: And that anger is a God-given response, a means
of survival, that we can use for our good IF we let it. Sometimes
we turn anger inwards and present a "happy face" to
the world, thinking that's what God or faithful people expect.
But the Bible is full of faithful people who spent a lot of
time during crisis being hurt, angry, frustrated, etc, and God
still calls them faithful.
We must close. May God bless each of you. I'll turn this back
to our host now.
HOST_DonnaR: Thank you, Virgil for a wonderful presentation!!
I would encourage you all to visit Virgil's website. I also
want to thank all of you who participated in today's chat. Now,
let's close in prayer.
Father, thank you for allowing Virgil to share with us today,
for the insights and encouragement he has given us. We ask you
to bless him in his ministry to others, bless his wife as she
lives with chronic illness, and bless each one who participated
in this seminar this afternoon. As we leave, be with us throughout
the week, and help us to remember that you are in control, no
matter what our situation may be. We thank you for your presence
with us this afternoon. In Jesus' name, Amen.
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